S'pore's ministers pay "lags behind private sector benchmark

last SG · 2006-11-29T17:37:13+00:00

Don't be an investment idiot!!! There's no one in this world would ask someone else to come and make money from me or us. No one in this world will build or...

raymond_sianz SG

I agreed that is stupid to test more on the rich and to feed the poor. But let me say this. By raising the 2% of GST is it helping the poor or is it helping the government itself? Seriously out of 4million of singaporean how many ppl is really that poor? Don't tell me the govt going to all the extra 2% to help all the poor in singapore? I don't think the ministers are all that capable if they have to spend $400,000 campaign to find out that marina bay should be call marina bay again. Also $30,000 on a campaign to find a name budget terminal which is eventually call budget terminal. if you call that smart and capable then i nothing to say. We even have MP's daughter coming out of the scene to disscrminate ppl who are 40s and his dad is on his side. So daughter of MP can anyhow talk? Ministers get so much pay and in the end government tell us that singaporean have to tackle on our own problem? Then i tackle my own problem and no welfare why i still need to pay tax? Seriously why civil servant deserve more pay? they say civil servant have to stay competitive with the private sector? Sure or not? Really private sector so high pay? I see a lot of ppl getting 1,300 - 1,500 a month for a poly graduate. And civil servant also getting around there.. Still need to increase? Seriously, singapore is a very peaceful country. We got a place to live and all that. But that doesn't mean that we can't improve anymore. We need a government to train a group of better Singaporean. At the same time take care of them. Not to really spoon feed them but rather change a better system.. You might say is easiler than done. But since they are getting so much pay.. They have the duty to do it.

Cindyfeh SG

I don't know why the ministers are arguing for a pay rise when theirs is already the highest in the world.

In my mind, its... "If you don't like your pay, quit loh! and go get a job that can pay what you desire".

And they say the average singaporean whines. Look who is whining now.

Hai...

dragg SG

i find their reasoning ridiculous. in the first place what is the benchmark to determine if the candidate selected are top-notch? the responsibility of a minister is afterall very different from one of a CEO.

i agree that they should quit or not join the public sector if they cannot accept a lower salary. i really do not believe there arent 'top notch' people who are willing to settle for less than or around the 100k-per-month salary.

Lowclassman SG

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F U C K you!!! Your face is even not comparable with my prick!

eyebuzz SG

WELL SAID! The point is that they in their ivory towers, are among the clouds, don't think they'll ever know if their feet smell. They certainly don't live the lives of those who whine about their daily living woes Rolling Eyes

fudgester SG

Now now, lowclassman, there's no need to resort to personal attacks.

I should know - ProGovt called me a 'textbook idiot'. Just because he uses personal attacks doesn't mean that we should do the same.

Lowclassman SG

You are right! let him die in his parents' shit holes.

Squiggly SG

Originally posted by ProGovt:

The ministers pay are peg to the mean of the top 6 profession that they usually come from; lawyers, doctors etc. It something that they are definitely capable of achieving themselves but they have been ask to serve the public. Surely, we can make it their worth.

Granted, there are poor people in this world. Can you help everyone? The only policy that works is to create equal opportunity for all and let the best and capable reach and take whatever their abilities allows them.

We complained about 2% GST increment. What other ways does the government have to generate revenue? Singapore has no natural resources and have to rely on foreign investment. It is only logical to make it attractive for businesses to stay here.

Increasing GST is fair because if you spend more, if you want a luxury lifestyle, then you pay more. Fair and square across the board.[/u][/b]

Look.... GST is applicable for BOTH Luxury items and DAILY NECESSITIES.... How can you say it is FAIR?

I can still do well with that 2% increase... What about those low-income households? Are you going to say "cannot afford, then don't have babies?"... or cannot afford "eat less"?

Yes... we must make sure our ministers are well-paid to compensate them or should i quote "make their worth" (which todate is still questionable)... I understand that policy-making is not an easy job.... first and foremost, their job is to serve the public... not just the exclusive rich and famous...

This GST debate is not for the benefit for the RICH... it's the poor... GST increase will benefit the rich... not the poor... cos the poor will incur higher cost of living... and they won't be able to enjoy the tax savings (wat's there to tax?)...

ProGovt SG

GST is calculated based on company's earning today. If we are go implement GST based on the product/ service type, the administrative and operational cost to check, determine and maintenance the list would be a huge and expensive excerise.

Our Govt is smart in that they have chosen the most effective way to implement it.

scabstermooch SG

So for all the talk about hiring and retaining brilliant minds, the government is resorting to a solution that I and, I suspect, my 15 year old cousin, can think up in about 5 minutes?

ProGovt SG

Unfortunately but true, there is no free lunch in this world. Nothing is for free and no one is so great as to work for less. If that be the case, the world would be swamped with full time volunteers.

If we are not going to pay our ministers good money worth their time, who will be running the show?

Take one of our post-65 MP; Ms Jessica Tan. She is the GM of Microsoft APAC. How much do you think she makes per annum? Someone in the industry would estimate between 400-600K. Do you think it is fair to ask her to give up her work and family time for less than 100K?

Would you work for less?

siaokao SG

Originally posted by ProGovt:

Everyone, and I mean [b]EVERYONE here, have the potential to become a minister and earn million dollar salary. If you cannot do it, blame yourself. What the point in whining and getting jealous because some else is more capable than you?[/u][/b][/b]

are you are one of those (MIW) whose pay 'adjustment' is at stake here?? Laughing

ProGovt SG

Would you believe everything I say? I have nothing to do with politics but I happen to have the privilege of knowing a few.

siaokao SG

Originally posted by Lowclassman:
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F U C K you!!! Your face is even not comparable with my prick![/b]

Relax pal..

Dun lose ur cool over someone like that. Who would call himself "PROGOVT" other than to draw fire and create havoc in this forum?

siaokao SG

So you are in the ELITE class? Mr. Green

I different class.. i donno them.. they also donno me..

I dun understand them.. they also dun understand me.. Laughing

siaokao SG

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dragg SG

the way you put it, no amount is ever enough.

moreover are you saying that if we pay someone 80k a month for a minister post we will get idiots?

siaokao SG

Need to give up work and 'family' time meh? Actually.. our Ministers all part time.. they sit (also part-time) as directors in many boards! Meaning.. many part-time jobs with multiple peanut pay leh..

Let me know if I'm wrong.. Mr. Green

Medicated Oil SG

I agreed that the poodle's job is part time while their other commitments are full time.

So, how can a part-time job be getting a full-time pay ?

Therefore, they are already receiving multiple income.

If the people have to end up "feeding" solution for the poodle, then what is the job of the poodle in the 1st place ?

Mr Peanut is really getting senile and continuing to say stuff without any thought.

I think he should just resign and stay in England with the rest of his peanut clan.

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